{"id":25510,"date":"2026-09-01T21:47:09","date_gmt":"2026-09-01T21:47:09","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/kulaberlin.com\/?p=25510"},"modified":"2026-09-07T14:28:35","modified_gmt":"2026-09-07T14:28:35","slug":"mandra-cerrone","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/kulaberlin.com\/de\/mandra-cerrone\/","title":{"rendered":"Artist Portrait I Mandra Cerrone"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">The Art of the Poetic Act<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">In conversation with KULABERLIN, Italian artist and performer Mandra Cerrone speaks about her work: the body, family, money, love, and the inheritance we receive without having chosen it.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Cerrone constructs her works, which she calls \u201cpoetic acts\u201d,  at the intersection of art, psychomagic, metagenealogy and myth. She does not represent conflict: she physically manipulates it, giving it a gesture capable of containing it.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">In this conversation, she shares for the first time and in such depth what it means to construct a device capable of physically transforming what is usually only narrated.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">01 Who is Mandra?<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<h5 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><strong>Before we talk about your work, I would like to ask about you. Who is Mandra when she is not an artist? And how possible is it, for you, to separate the woman from the artist?<\/strong><\/h5>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I don\u2019t think it\u2019s possible to separate them. Ever. The artist isn\u2019t a role I play: it\u2019s my way of looking at the world. There isn\u2019t a private Mandra and an artist Mandra. There is one single person who moves through life with curiosity, desire, and wonder. Maybe that\u2019s where art is born: in the way one inhabits the world.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-media-text is-stacked-on-mobile\"><figure class=\"wp-block-media-text__media\"><a href=\"https:\/\/kulaberlin.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/09\/mandra-stella-cerrone.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"820\" height=\"1024\" src=\"https:\/\/kulaberlin.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/09\/mandra-stella-cerrone-820x1024.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-25518 size-full\" srcset=\"https:\/\/kulaberlin.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/09\/mandra-stella-cerrone-820x1024.jpg 820w, https:\/\/kulaberlin.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/09\/mandra-stella-cerrone-240x300.jpg 240w, https:\/\/kulaberlin.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/09\/mandra-stella-cerrone-768x959.jpg 768w, https:\/\/kulaberlin.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/09\/mandra-stella-cerrone-840x1049.jpg 840w, https:\/\/kulaberlin.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/09\/mandra-stella-cerrone.jpg 922w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 820px) 100vw, 820px\" \/><\/a><\/figure><div class=\"wp-block-media-text__content\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>Mandra Cerrone<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">02 \u2014 Beneath the Surface<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<h5 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><strong>Looking at your work, I have the sense that you are less interested in what happens on the surface of life than in what remains beneath it: wounds, desires, invisible bonds, the things we inherit without choosing them. Where does this need to go so deeply come from?<\/strong><\/h5>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I think it comes from a kind of restlessness, but also from a hunger for truth. The surface interests me, a great deal, aesthetically too, but it isn\u2019t enough for me. I\u2019ve always had the sense that visible reality was only the emerged part of something much larger. My work often consists of searching for an image capable of making that invisible part, that shadow zone, visible,  and illuminating it.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">03 \u2014 What We Inherit<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Many of your works deal with family, memory and genealogy. How much of who we are truly belongs to us, and how much is something we have received, absorbed or inherited?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">This is one of the fundamental questions of my research. We are born inside a story we didn\u2019t choose. We receive names, expectations, fears, behaviors, silences, roles, even ideas about love and death. Part of us is inherited. But we are not condemned to genealogy. Genealogy can be a prison, or it can be material to transform. Freedom, for me, isn\u2019t erasing what we\u2019ve received, but looking at it, recognizing it, and deciding what to do with it.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><a href=\"https:\/\/kulaberlin.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/09\/sine-nomine-1.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"576\" src=\"https:\/\/kulaberlin.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/09\/sine-nomine-1-1024x576.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-25517\" srcset=\"https:\/\/kulaberlin.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/09\/sine-nomine-1-1024x576.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/kulaberlin.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/09\/sine-nomine-1-300x169.jpg 300w, https:\/\/kulaberlin.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/09\/sine-nomine-1-767x432.jpg 767w, https:\/\/kulaberlin.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/09\/sine-nomine-1-838x472.jpg 838w, https:\/\/kulaberlin.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/09\/sine-nomine-1.jpg 1080w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/a><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">04 \u2014 Silent Family<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>In <em>Silent Family<\/em>, you work precisely with this invisible dimension of family relationships. Was there something in your own personal history that you had to confront before you could speak so intimately about the histories of others?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I don\u2019t bring my own biography onto the stage: the device is mine, the process belongs to whoever takes part. But I couldn\u2019t have built a space like Silent Family, with its fourteen models available for people to arrange their own family portrait, if I hadn\u2019t first gone through the effort of looking at my own family without turning away. That personal passage is the ground I build on, not the content I show.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">05 \u2014 What the Body Knows<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>The body returns constantly in your work: as a place of memory, love and pain, but also as a possibility for transformation. What does the body know that the mind often refuses to know?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The body doesn\u2019t lie. It already knows, before words, what weighs and what is missing. In my performances it is a threshold, a place of transit: it doesn\u2019t represent, it acts. That\u2019s why I work on the real gesture, not on narration.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><a href=\"https:\/\/kulaberlin.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/09\/denaro-santo.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"900\" height=\"602\" src=\"https:\/\/kulaberlin.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/09\/denaro-santo.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-25516\" srcset=\"https:\/\/kulaberlin.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/09\/denaro-santo.jpg 900w, https:\/\/kulaberlin.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/09\/denaro-santo-300x201.jpg 300w, https:\/\/kulaberlin.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/09\/denaro-santo-767x513.jpg 767w, https:\/\/kulaberlin.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/09\/denaro-santo-100x68.jpg 100w, https:\/\/kulaberlin.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/09\/denaro-santo-450x300.jpg 450w, https:\/\/kulaberlin.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/09\/denaro-santo-839x561.jpg 839w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 900px) 100vw, 900px\" \/><\/a><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">06 \u2014 Love Is a Confession<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>In <em>Love Is a Confession<\/em>, you perform an extremely simple yet powerful gesture: you \u201cbreak\u201d a heart. What happens inside you in the seconds before such an action? Are you afraid? Do you hesitate? Or, in the moment of the action, does the artist disappear completely?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">There\u2019s always a threshold moment, a breath before. It isn\u2019t fear of the gesture itself, it\u2019s a precise physical action, a stone on an object, but the moment where imagination and action touch. For the unconscious, there is no difference between what is imagined and what is enacted. In that second, the artist doesn\u2019t disappear: she puts herself at the service of the gesture, becomes the hand that carries out what the rite requires. That\u2019s the moment the artist expresses herself most fully.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">07 \u2014 Care as a Poetic Act<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>You have often described your performances as \u201cpoetic acts.\u201d That feels more intimate than the word performance. What does it mean to take care of a person while inviting them into an artwork?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Above all it means not invading. I prepare a space, build a situation, bring in the symbols, and then accompany. I try not to be directive. I don\u2019t bring people into a risk, but into a possibility. Taking care, on stage, means staying present enough to support, and stepping back enough not to decide in the other person\u2019s place. That\u2019s what I mean by \u201cpoetic act\u201d: it doesn\u2019t just narrate an action, it also carries the responsibility of whoever generates it.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><a href=\"https:\/\/kulaberlin.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/09\/corpo-a-corpo-memorie.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"768\" src=\"https:\/\/kulaberlin.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/09\/corpo-a-corpo-memorie-1024x768.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-25515\" srcset=\"https:\/\/kulaberlin.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/09\/corpo-a-corpo-memorie-1024x768.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/kulaberlin.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/09\/corpo-a-corpo-memorie-300x225.jpg 300w, https:\/\/kulaberlin.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/09\/corpo-a-corpo-memorie-768x576.jpg 768w, https:\/\/kulaberlin.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/09\/corpo-a-corpo-memorie-1536x1152.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/kulaberlin.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/09\/corpo-a-corpo-memorie-2048x1536.jpg 2048w, https:\/\/kulaberlin.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/09\/corpo-a-corpo-memorie-840x630.jpg 840w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/a><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">08 \u2014 When the Work Answers Back<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>In your work, the audience is not simply watching. They are involved, listened to, brought into relationship. Has someone ever given you something during a work that you yourself were not yet ready to see?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Yes. And it\u2019s one of the most beautiful things that can happen in a relational work. When you work with people you have to accept losing control over the piece. You can build a precise structure, but you can\u2019t know what will happen in the other person. Sometimes a word, a gesture, a look opens up a possibility you hadn\u2019t foreseen. And that\u2019s exactly where the work keeps transforming, for me too.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">09 \u2014 Transforming Pain<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Your work often seems to begin with a wound, but it never remains there. It searches for transformation. What has to happen for pain to become something other than pain \u2014 knowledge, imagination, even beauty?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">It has to be gone through, looked at, transformed. In my work I try to take something formless, a wound, a loss, a conflict, a desire, and give it a gesture, an image, a rite, a form that can hold it. Pain that is enacted , composed, detached, washed, broken, recomposed, finds a different way out than ordinary language. It\u2019s in the symbolic gesture, really carried out, that pain begins to become something else. Beauty isn\u2019t a decoration of pain: it\u2019s an essential part of its transformation. The expansion of consciousness carries beauty within it.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><a href=\"https:\/\/kulaberlin.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/09\/studio-mystic-driver-art-lab.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"681\" src=\"https:\/\/kulaberlin.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/09\/studio-mystic-driver-art-lab.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-25514\" srcset=\"https:\/\/kulaberlin.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/09\/studio-mystic-driver-art-lab.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/kulaberlin.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/09\/studio-mystic-driver-art-lab-300x200.jpg 300w, https:\/\/kulaberlin.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/09\/studio-mystic-driver-art-lab-100x68.jpg 100w, https:\/\/kulaberlin.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/09\/studio-mystic-driver-art-lab-450x300.jpg 450w, https:\/\/kulaberlin.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/09\/studio-mystic-driver-art-lab-767x510.jpg 767w, https:\/\/kulaberlin.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/09\/studio-mystic-driver-art-lab-839x558.jpg 839w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/a><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">10 \u2014 What Is Love?<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>You have worked extensively with the subject of love. Yet in your work, love never appears simply as romance. It is memory, dependence, inheritance, loss, desire and responsibility. What is love to you now, after everything you have lived through?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Love isn\u2019t chosen: it happens. And if it finds you worthy, it leaves nothing as it was before, it\u2019s as final as death. I\u2019m not talking about romantic love, love between siblings, or family love. For a psychomagic action I asked fifty people to write me a letter of recommendation addressed to Love, as if it were an institution I was applying to be hired by. That\u2019s the Love I mean: something you don\u2019t earn through relationship, but that you present yourself for, apply for, hope to be found worthy of. When it arrives, it illuminates. It makes you wise. An experience that goes beyond you.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">11 \u2014 Genealogical Love<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>In <em>Genealogical Love<\/em>, the individual story of a woman becomes something larger: a reflection on violence, family memory and the feminine. Where do you see the boundary between someone&#8217;s personal history and the artist&#8217;s responsibility to transform it into a work?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The boundary lies in the truth of the use. A rite, a symbol, a word doesn\u2019t lose its power when used outside its original context: it\u2019s the truth with which it\u2019s used that produces the poetic act. Genealogical Love was born from research on femicide: I was analyzing the relationship between victim and perpetrator, what in their stories had brought them together, hooked them to each other. No man came forward to stage his own family relationships. So I worked only with the material of a woman who had survived violence, building a device close, in form, to family constellations. My responsibility was not to<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">appropriate her pain, but to give her back her own material, transformed into a poetic act.12 \u2014 Being a Woman<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Has being a woman changed the way you look, create and move through the world? And is there something you would say today, as an adult woman and an artist, to the girl you once were?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I\u2019d tell her I love her. She wanted guides, teachers, precious lessons. She found them, formed friendships and alliances with them, transformed herself. A permanent revolution. In the beginning I used to say of myself: \u201cI am a solitary traveler, walking little-trodden paths.\u201d And I saw myself in Alejandra Pizarnik: \u201cI am like the silent, starry night.\u201d I change every day, but I have an unchanging essence I recognize myself in. Being a woman has shaped a great deal of my experience of the world. I\u2019ve learned to trust intuition, feeling, that knowledge that arrives before words.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><a href=\"https:\/\/kulaberlin.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/09\/love-is-a-confession.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1000\" height=\"563\" src=\"https:\/\/kulaberlin.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/09\/love-is-a-confession.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-25513\" srcset=\"https:\/\/kulaberlin.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/09\/love-is-a-confession.jpg 1000w, https:\/\/kulaberlin.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/09\/love-is-a-confession-300x169.jpg 300w, https:\/\/kulaberlin.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/09\/love-is-a-confession-767x432.jpg 767w, https:\/\/kulaberlin.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/09\/love-is-a-confession-838x472.jpg 838w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1000px) 100vw, 1000px\" \/><\/a><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">13 \u2014 Desire<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>You once wrote that desire is the source of creativity. What does Mandra Cerrone desire today? Has that desire changed since you began this journey?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Desire isn\u2019t the source of creativity: it\u2019s what ignites it. De-sidera, the lack of stars, the tension toward what one doesn\u2019t yet have, is the very material of art. In the beginning I mainly wanted to find my language. Today I want to carry it further: to find ever more precise forms for what I\u2019m searching for, and to have the courage to be radical without becoming self-referential. And today I want that language to become an inheritance: something others can pick up, transform, and make their own.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">14 \u2014 Feeling Completely Alive<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Is there a moment in your life when you felt completely alive? Not necessarily a major event. It could be a tiny moment that nobody else would have considered important.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I don\u2019t know how to answer. They\u2019re very small moments. Walking on a sunny day and feeling, for no apparent reason, that I\u2019m well. Feeling that I\u2019m inside an incredibly beautiful moment. Or when, in a gesture, I catch the essence of another person. It happens like that, inexplicably, sometimes.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">15 \u2014 The Island of Solitude<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>And then there is solitude. An important part of your practice seems to emerge from silence and inner listening. Has solitude been a wound, a necessity or a form of freedom for you?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I think it\u2019s been all three, at different times. In the work it\u2019s above all a necessity: without silence, there\u2019s no listening to what precedes language, and without that listening, no symbol capable of truly speaking is born. Silence characterizes much of my work and presupposes an inner life, a space of freedom. Today I think of solitude as an island.<br>\u201cBeloved solitude, blessed island.\u201d \u2014 Franco Battiato, Amata solitudine<\/p>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity\"\/>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">16 \u2014 Doubt<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>You continue to question yourself. You once said, \u201cI constantly doubt myself.\u201d Is that still true? And if so, do you think doubt is a weakness of the artist or one of her greatest strengths?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">It\u2019s still true. And today I believe more and more that doubt is a strength, not a weakness. I ask myself whether what I\u2019m doing is necessary, what it adds to my life and to others\u2019, whether it can spark a change, clarify something, or simply warm someone\u2019s heart. Doubt keeps me from repeating gestures that have become automatic, emptied of truth. So yes, I doubt. But I also work while doubting.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">17 \u2014 Disturbing Consensus<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>You have described the artist as someone capable of altering our vision of things, almost a researcher, a visionary, even a subversive. What do you think art still needs the courage to disturb today?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Consensus. Art should have the courage to disturb what we\u2019ve learned to accept as normal, natural, inevitable. Conformism, worn-out images, our own convictions. And above all, passivity, that\u2019s why I work with performance: it\u2019s the one form that truly moves the subject from a passive position to a creative one, in the body, in real time. A thorn in the side of the established order, because it questions what is taken for granted and opens the possibility of imagining and acting differently.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity\"\/>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">18 \u2014 Presence as Resistance<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>We live in a time when everything is displayed, shared and consumed at extraordinary speed. You ask people instead for presence, listening, vulnerability and time. Could returning to intimacy be a form of rebellion today?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Yes. Rebellion is presence. Stopping, listening, truly looking at the other and truly looking at oneself. In a world that constantly wants us elsewhere, giving time and attention to what\u2019s happening is an act of resistance. Maybe of intimacy too.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">19 \u2014 I Want Something to Happen to You<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>If you could meet someone entering one of your works for the first time, what would you want to happen inside them? Not what should they understand, but what would you want them to feel?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I\u2019d want something to happen to them. When I try out on myself an act that I later propose to others, often through that gesture I finally see something that was already right in front of me, but that I wasn\u2019t conscious of. It\u2019s a kind of illumination: a light turning on. I\u2019d want that to happen to whoever enters one of my works too. Not that they understand something, but that they feel in their body that, for the duration of the gesture, something has moved. And I\u2019d want that act to keep working even after the performance, even without me. Even just a little. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">20 \u2014 Nothing Is Off Limits<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>After all these years, is there still something you are afraid to confront through art? Something you feel close to but have not yet had the courage to transform into a work?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">No. In art I know no limits: reckless in psychic experimentation, but cautious and respectful only toward the body. The territories I don\u2019t know are the ones that attract me most. If anything, what\u2019s left is a question, not a fear: what happens to a work when it\u2019s no longer only mine?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">21 \u2014 Without the Word \u201cArt\u201d<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>If, for a moment, we removed the word \u201cart\u201d completely from our vocabulary, what would be the most important question you are trying to live today?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">How much of my life is already a poetic act, and how much is still waiting to become one?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">22 \u2014 Make Mistakes<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>What would you say to a young artist who feels she has something to say but is afraid of exposing herself, being judged or simply failing to find her place in the art world?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I\u2019d tell her: get it wrong. Make a mess, start ten things and finish none of them, it\u2019s there, in imperfection, that a path opens that no one has already mapped out for you. Whoever seeks only order eventually stops searching. They become disciplined, predictable, obedient to something that is no longer their own desire.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">23 \u2014 One Sentence<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>If you could leave one sentence for the young women artists who come after you, what would it be?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Have the courage to follow what you cannot yet explain.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">24 \u2014 Wine or Beer?<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>And finally, a much simpler question, almost domestic: wine or beer?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Wine, preferably red, drunk slowly and with someone worth talking to.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Want more?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-social-links is-layout-flex wp-block-social-links-is-layout-flex\"><li class=\"wp-social-link wp-social-link-instagram wp-block-social-link\"><a 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